pg.acq.push(function() { Im also scared of spreading misinformation and making mistakes (both of which are things I have done), and I dont like the idea of people feeling too intimidated to call me out when I mess up. It really does hurt reading them, crazy to know about the double standards too :((. I didnt put in a lack of effort because its Super Junior though, if I had been making a BigBang masterpost instead, that would have been the one with little effort put into it. Mamamoo - Solar. hitType: 'event', They apologized. },false) People @Pr0blematicIdol follows or mentioned can reply Problematic Idols @Pr0blematicIdol Jan 3, 2021 Replying to @Pr0blematicIdol The show is about celebrities living their daily life alone. You dont owe them anything in the lines of forgiveness, especially if you were one of the people they personally hurt with their past actions. Threads: 200. To discuss the bullying and harassment Mamamoo now receives daily, we must first lay out what originally brought out all the hate. For those of you who might not know, Mamamoo is a four girl idol group who debuted under RBW (Rainbowbridge World) in June of 2014. okay so somebody sent me a link to the video (thank you btw!) Hwasa trolled for past racism as #AskHwasa trends, Internet asks which ethnicity she will 'offend' next. As the n-word is decidedly not of Asian-country origins it would make sense that she would not know the meaning of a English word that she is quickly seeing and then singing in a song, as it is a word which takes most, if not all, of its derogatory meaning from American context. But she probably could not have predicted that an #AskHwasa hashtag could have drawn out some of the worst Twitter drags in recent times. not excusing it or defending, but Henry was a little boy from Canada, and that kind of fan service is really odd in general to the West, Id hardly call that problematic. Ive heard Moomoos are known as fairly passive, but its also why they are known as some of the most accepting and even better behaved fans. ga('ads.send', { While Mamamoo being popular with the public is widely known, many are unaware of just how many actors, idols, and senior producers they have won over with their authentic shows and cheery personalities. ", The link includes the statements released on the group's behalf, most notably, their own apologies for their use of blackface which was released within four hours of the video going out. Advanced Faker. Yes I should have included more context. Ive seen a lot of people (and even previously been them sometimes) throwing around the Siwon thing to say hes wildly homophobic, for example, when it turned out to be heavily unreliable and probably false. While MBC later clarified that the outfit was meant to be a glamorized version of the sauna outfits worn by South Koreans, particularly a style that Hwasa herself has worn before, many thought the outfit was far more similar to an African one than a Korean sauna look. Siwon isnt the only member this has happened to, and I also understand that a lot of the time people take things out of context in order to justify hating on a specific member and its really frustrating. However, another fan might choose not to forgive him for it, which is totally up to them, and totally understandable. This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. I found out that they did blackface which is disgusting and heartbreaking cause I really liked them so I stewed on it for a few days and looked again and found that they had apologised that same day 2x and that they also apologised in person the next day concert. 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Mobile +91-9466446612, +91-9728497962; Email info@pvginternationals.com; wow tanaan jungle questline; small planet airlines fleet; you've got mail bookstore name Discover short videos related to mamamoo being problematic on TikTok. Yeah, the first thing international fans do is hear that Mamamoo is bad and that they shouldn't like them, and then they jump in on the hate without doing their own research. The post isnt supposed to be the be-all-and-end-all of offensive super junior. I think this is one thing that remains somewhat undecided but considering Baekhyuns track record, I wouldnt put it past him tbh. 1,068. Joined: May 2022. Only four hours after the incident occurred, both Mamamoo and their company RBW wrote out an apology in both Korean and English and posted it online. It was laughable because a writer had a compilation of problematic things that idol groups did and you can very clearly see the double-standards people have for boy groups and girl groups (even the writer herself). I feel like this sounds insincere but its not, I promise, I wish I had gone about it very differently. okay so people seemed to find my exo masterpost pretty helpful and I'm very aware that suju aren't exactly the least offensive group around, so (since the YFIP one isn't very up-to-date) I thought I'd make a super junior masterpost since I'm a suju fan and I want to provide helpful resources for other fans . Mamamoo Has Been Receiving Hate Storms- And Its Only Getting Worse. We always seem to be so hard to celebrities, especially idols, when they fuck up yet we're never there to congratulate them once we see them grow and change. Hwasa, while covering the track, read the lyrics as is, leading to the gaffe. And the answer is simple: Hwasa has been their scapegoat for years now. window.googletag.pubads().addEventListener('slotOnload', function(event) { I dont really want this published but Im Korean and I just watched the SISTAR video and the translations are pretty accurate, Hyorin was trying to say how bora has all black fashion and her hair and black complexion adds on to it, and I felt that too (soyu was trying to suggest that hyorin had darker skin than bora so hyorin shouldnt talk about anyone elses skin color) so hyorin was like yeah but at least I dont wear black clothes like bora! They expect idols to be the wokest people out there because theyre celebrities when in reality theyre just the product of their colorist society. The photos are problematic as they were taken in 2008 when Chorong was in high school and underage at 17 years old. yeah, suju has done problematic stuff and i agree, we shouldnt defend it or excuse it, its good to have that kind of discussion. I dont make these lists with the intent of ruining the idols image or spreading misinformation (which by the way, if I do again, please call me out on it because otherwise I have no other way of knowing). Dark smudges of makeup were put on her face to represent dirt that the beggar character had on him, and people accused her of doing blackface for it, even though she was portraying a Korean character, and not someone of African descent. hitType: 'event', I didnt really spend a huge amount of time on that Super Junior post and I didnt properly think about the way I was phrasing things, or the information I was including. I forgot how toxic Kpop fans can be Like you all know, Mamamoo has a pretty small fan base (internationally) compared to some other idol groups. In 2017, Mamamoo created an ending concert video for moos (their fans), where they did a parody of Bruno Mars Uptown Funk. In the show, there are co-cast members Par Na Rae and Han Ye Jin. }); I have no reason not to trust the 2 Korean-speaking people whove come forward and told me it isnt a mistranslation? But in this case it was obviously red, and drawn the way a clown would wear it. I dont know if youre Korean or not (your blog doesnt say) but if you arent, I consider everything youve said invalid information. Honestly there is nothing wrong with what they said. actually dont feel like fighting that person on their response, so im just letting it go. For hours the terms hwasa n-word, hwasa racist, hwasa ugly, hwasa dead, were the most common twitter terms in Hwasas searches, while Moos rushed around trying to tweet positive things and trend protective hashtags in response. Like who is the next ethnicity youre going to offend? They've made mistakes in the past, but they're learning and growing through their experiences. asked one user while another tweet read, "Dark skin or brown skin men? document.querySelector("#ads").addEventListener('click',function(){ also please read this before trying to contact me about any of this. Fans welcome to spam photos, videos, gifs, to talk about Mamamoo, Solar, Moonbyul, Wheein, Hwasa updates, music, content or anything. It then grew and grew until every day Mamamoo was receiving complaints about their dancing, calling their vocals fake, and most of all, attacking their looks and hygiene. (but if you need the actual fan account to knock that off, i guess ill find someone who can give that to you. I dont think people should defend what others do/say, regardless of how long ago it was, but I do think people should look at stuff in context and use a degree of common sense. On Strong Heart Henry revealed that when he first came to Southkorea he thought his fellow members were gay and that Kim Heechul was transgender. eventAction: 'click_adunit' Thank you very much for the information!! 4) I included the hijab thing for Heechul because I saw muslim fans point it out and say that it made them uncomfortable. Mamamoo are good, genuine people. now onto the list: *Anything with an asterisk besides it is a fan account and so may not be entirely reliable, though are usually fairly trustworthy. Why was that her fault? My hiatus is indefinite, but its unlikely Ill be running it again any time soon. . when Lay said, When asked about his ideal type, said that she, He and Chen chose Kai and Tao as the members they wouldnt want to date if they were girls, when Chen was explaining why, Xiumin interrupted him and saidThey both have a similarity, theyre both tanned (, Posted a photograph of him in a face mask on Weibo and captioned it, Apparently there were some old online comments from Baekhyuns cyworld account where he called girls at his High School sluts but I cant find any screenshots, Chanyeol and Baekhyun apparently admitted to teasing the Chinese members at first for their pronunciation/korean and acted somewhat cold towards them, though I cannot find a source for this, Many people have said Chanyeol said his ideal type would have white/pale skin but I cant find a source on that so Im not sure, Some people have told me that Kris is sexist/misogynistic but I cant find anything about this online, I also vaguely remember seeing a picture of exo which one of the members wrote comments on and there was something about Kais skin being dark but I cant remember who it was (possibly Kai himself?) The K-POP idol's vocal talent is considered one of the best in the industry and yet, she continues to receive a great amount of . If we reflect on our own selves, Im sure a lot of us have done some similar things that could be classified as questionable if we were always in the spotlight as idols too. Thats not fair to them at all and makes absolutely no sense. kpop groups; soloists; socials and info; Back; kpop groups. }); For a lot of other controversies in Korea (like addressing an older person informally), international fans may not understand those issues as well as Koreans and believe that it's no big deal. #1. Its not good when people exaggerate stuff (like they did with Siwon) but its good to keep discussions going on offensive things in kpop, 3) Thank you for the fanaccounts/links about the Siwon thing (Ill add them to the list), thats the kind of thing I appreciate being told because I am not omniscient and I dont know everything (Also I think I already had one of those on there?). There are so many kids in the . eventAction: 'render' The ring around her mouth: Now a ring around someones mouth was something drawn back in the days of blackface to emphasize big lips. They are definitely not out to hurt anybody, that I know for sure. }); 2. #1,972. #AskHwasa. In the age of the Internet, in the age where absolutely anything can be done online, your actions online matter. Solar | Moonbyul | Wheein | Hwasa. The environment that they grew up in is much different than ours; they're surrounded by customs and norms from their own society and culture. Everyone, dont think of dirty thoughts!, negative comment about Taos skin being dark, cant be too chubby/fat and must have a nice body, He has darker skin than me, doesnt he?, in general, youre skin looks better if you have a lighter skin tone. I encourage everybody to keep general discussion going, but for now, Im stepping out. The other day it was revealed that two major idols were dating, and before I had even seen the news article, I was in a Mamamoo fan group-chat, and someone sent out the link of the dating news with their comment under being, be on high alert for hwasas tags. I've researched it online and all I see are hate comments, especially towards Solar and Wheein. 9 Months of Service. Also of note, Mamamoo participated in and won the 2019 Queendom, coming in first place against such idols as (G)I-DLE, AOA, Oh My Girl, Park Bom, and Lovelyz. In this video, they wore blackface. This brings us now to the true reason for this article. Feels bad yo. It's even harder these days.. anything can be taken out of context for example, they're banning "Baby It's Cold Outside" on the radio because some people feel the lyrics suggest date rape what a load of BS. I can understand how a youtube translating team could mess up their translation, Ive seen it happen before, but as a person who doesnt know Korean I have to go off what Korean-speaking people tell me. its good(, When asked who their ideal types would be if the other members were girls, Chen chose Luhan and Chanyeol chose D.O and Lay then took the microphone to clarify that they were not gay by saying, A similar incident occurred at a concert(?) Whew, Im sorry for the long post haha. #askhwasa pic.twitter.com/rqPYTIMaEL, And from there, the jokes just continued, "Biggie or Tupac?" The information!, another fan might choose not to trust the 2 Korean-speaking people whove come forward told. And told me it isnt a mistranslation info ; Back ; kpop groups ; soloists ; socials info... 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