Happy St Pattys Day. I think Irish whiskey is like Scotch, meant for sipping, not mixing. The main differences between Tullamore Dew vs Jameson are: Tullamore Dew is produced in different distilleries, whereas Jameson is produced in a single distillery. A great whiskey. Ferdinand II was a devout Roman Catholic and relatively intolerant when compared to his predecessor, Rudolf II. This article is based on a paper delivered at the American Catholic Historical Association conference Such crap why are all these experts so called Irishmen living in US. Found it very smooth to the tongue. Produced at Cooley for Sidney Frank, it appears to have been geared mainly for the American market. Bushmills also provides single malt for Powers, while Midleton (where many of teh Irish whiskies are produced) provides grain whiskey for the Bushmills blends. Ireland is %110 united in whiskey. Still enjoy the Black Bush and the Bushmills 16yr. Currently sipping on a Writers Tears neat & have two types of Teeling, The Irishman single malt, The Irishman Founders Reserve, a 12 y/o Redbreast, a GreenSpot single pot, a Powers John Lane Release, a Middleton Barry Crockett Legacy, a 12 y/o Jameson Special Reserve, & a Green Spot still to try. red breast is my favorite single pot still whisky!! Only if you are an idiot! Just a point, Jameson is traditionally a Dublin Whiskey, originally distilled and blended in Bow Street in dublins Smithfield. It was the anti-Catholic hiring practices that Bushmills employed in Northern Ireland that fueled the snub. Porn S, Eugene, Oregon friends! While were tossing around personal stories, about 20 years ago I met some younger guys from Glasgow at a local pub, and I mentioned how I knew that neither Scotland nor Ireland were altogether warm with England, but I didnt know how the Irish and Scots felt about each other. I tasted the Jamesons before I poured in any ginger ale & so glad I did, Irish whiskey is sooooo much better IMHO than Scotch or bourbon IMHO. 1 pint of stout and a halfun of Jameson.. Also, show some class fellas (Burnsy calling me an idiot) my grandfather who is from Tipperary lost friends because of the Black and Tans (you know the English convicts the English government set upon the Irish), in some cases they were beaten to death!! In April I went to Jerusalem. It is about the spirit in the bottle, not in a church. I am also a fan of Tullemore and Black Bush. Im trying one at a time to see what I prefer. Now I need to locate Redbreast! Who do I believe, the man who raised me, or some drunk I met in a bar? Comment I took a fifth of Bushmills with me in my checked luggage. I just brought some Tyrconnell 10-year port cask aged home from duty free it is delicious. Powers Gold Label is also wonderful and dirt cheap. Rabble Rouser, Bushmills is not total UFV (sic) territory in the slightest. If I had a choice between Macallan 18 and Redbreast, think Id stay Irish. Trust me on this. Today in Trader Joes, the checker looked at my bottle of Bushmills and then at me and asked, Catholic or Protestant? I had never heard that one before. Fact: the worst atrocities in the Irish struggle for freedom were perpetrated by the Irish on each other and were not likely fueled by religious affiliation but the politics of the time. Bushmills does not, to my certain knowledge, employ Catholics as certain industries/companies are, let us say, reserved for one tribe or another in the Black North. Lived in Ireland my whole life and as an avid whiskey drinker, both scotch and Irish, Ive never encountered that conversation. Beaumont Funny, I thought of addressing that as I was wrapping up the post, but then thought, Nah, the chuckleheads who read this website arent smart enough to draw that conclusion. Guess I was wrong. You wouldnt really understand the depth of the situation. Powers gold label is absolute shit. TRIPLE SEC, 2 shots of BUSHMILLS, And while the distillery had a larger proportion of Protestants than Catholics, this was down to the demographics of the area in which the town of Bushmills is situated which is largely a protestant area and the employment status reflects that. Im an Irish barman and I am stunned by the ignorant waffle that some Irish Americans spew about the oul sod. When it comes to what crosses my lips I guess I am an agnostic. [1] In recent years, several single pot still variants have been relaunched under the Powers label. Jameson Irish Whiskey is produced in Midleton, Ireland, though the original home of the brand is in Dublin. Just as in an area which is largely Catholic you would expect most employees to be Catholic. This is an interesting thread and I have a few more now to try. Slainte. And to those who dont know, that hint of bourbon flavor comes from the fact that Jamesons is aged in used American bourbon barrels as are most Irish whiskeys. If it was a genuine issue then bars wouldnt serve both. The cheap rustic stuff is often the best. One company that undeniably did discriminate against Catholics though was Guinness in Dublin yet i dont see any boycotts in place for that. Paddy is a brand of blended Irish whiskey produced by Irish Distillers, at the Midleton distillery in County Cork, on behalf of Sazerac, a privately held American company. Period. Protestant whiskey is typically made in Northern Ireland, while Catholic whiskey is made in the Republic of Ireland. 1 line was bottling Bushmills. West Virginia is the only U.S state where you can legally handle venomous serpents to prove your faith. Powers is a brand of Irish whiskey. neither, Im a Jew. Great smooth flavor and a soft long finish. He said, no, Im Catholic, but I was born and raised in the town of Bushmills! No one here has a soft spot in their heart for Paddys?. His policies were considered heavily pro-Catholic. March 17, 2016 / 1:00 PM / CBS San Francisco. It retails slightly cheaper than Jameson in the US, at $16 a bottle. As regards the Catholic v Protestant whiskey debate. History matters which is why the Catholic/Protestant thing is relevant. I was born in West Belfast and I can tell you, that most Catholics prefer Jamesons. I went to the Distillery in Tullamore(now a museum for the whiskey), it is now produced in Middleton, although it is no longer owned by Pernod-Ricard. Soon after, in a bold move, Irish Distillers decided to close all of their existing distilleries, and to consolidate production at a new purpose-built facility in Midleton (the New Midleton Distillery) alongside their existing Old Midleton Distillery. Though it is good to remember that Bushmills & Jameson were selling about even worldwide up until the mid/late 1990s, before Pernod decided to put all of its eggs in the Jameson basket. It's been going on for thousands of years across the globe. [7], In 1871, the distillery was expanded and rebuilt in the Victorian style, becoming one of the most impressive sights in Dublin. In: St. Patrick's Day. My growing up yearsnot virulently anti catholic just plain anti-catholic. So, which Irish whiskey is Catholic? I got into Powers through my wife, ans she learned of it from Shane MacGowan(s music). No one here has a soft spot in their heart for Paddys? Well Kentucky used to be part of the state of Virginia, but that doesnt mean you blame the whiskey for something that happened in that state. As an American, am I being disloyal to Scotland when I drink Jamesons? CATHOLICISM vs PROTESTANTISM!! It may not be factual, verified, or correct, but definitely true. [1] History [ edit] For the record, despite the Scottish reformation, that doesnt mean Jamieson was a Proddy. Tullamore Dew has lemon notes with wood undertones, whereas Jameson has a light . Im also a bit confused on the cheap part. My grandmother preferred Bushmills (on ice, with a large splash of water). They have started construction now on a grain still on site now which means that the full three components of the blend will be produced in Tullamore. The Emperor's war against the Lutheran princes put the first Protestant reformers in a difficult bind. I think the Middleton hurt my wallet the most. Granted, I dont mix my whiskey with Coke or Ginger Ale, so perhaps Im missing the best presentation of Powers Gold Label. 2. To those who want to talk about Catholic vs Protestant issues, at least go visit the country before assuming anything. Mostly only Catholics or the nonreligious drink here. The old make, which we drank with our luncheon, was delicious, and finer than anything we had hitherto tasted. Shortly after reading this post I dropped by Mortons to see a bartender friend. Redbreast makes for good sipping but for my budget Powers is my standby. The truth of the matter is, the age-old faux-pas of ordering Bushmills for fear of supporting English aggression and offending the Republic of Ireland is about as Irish as corned beef which is to say, not very Irish at all but rather Irish-American (Sorry, kids, corned beef is a Jewish invention). Along with a fellow sipper we have over most of the Irish brands listed here in this thread as part of a 30+ years Christmas gift exchange and tasting session. Is Misty protestant? Arthur Guinness was definitely Protestant And a Unionist. He was adamantly against Home Rule as well. In later years I looked more into my family history and came to realize that my Fathers family were local Baptists and my Mothers were Czech Catholics. To complicate the issue even more, Bushmills has been owned by a big drinks corporation since 1972 (first Irish Distillers, now Diageo), but before then it was owned by a Scottish Jew! I still live there. Whiskey, or "uisce beatha" in the Irish language, is an integral part of Ireland and Irish culture. Also how does Navan end up in a Heineken? Jameson is a blended potstill whiskey (malted + Unmalted grain blended with grain whiskey). This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0 United States License. In Ireland theyd drink either, but rarely had enough money for more than a pint o the local beer. The root of this myth lies in the fact that Bushmills is located in the predominately Protestant and still British Northern Ireland. To comment on a few posts above: I am of Irish descent and remember hearing the Protestant Whiskey comments as a kid growing up in New England(I am 50 now). But Contrary and challenging to the end- does this not sum up the Celtic spirit, whatever its origin or leaning? Talk about confused. Regarding the Catholic/Protestant/Jewish/Corn Beef relationship, Man is walking down the street in Belfast. Palate When Alfred Barnard, the British historian visited John's Lane in the late 1880s, he noted the elegance and cleanliness of the buildings, and the modernity of the distillery, describing it as "about as complete a work as it is possible to find anywhere". So bottoms up. Though I guess thats for a different forum. best bang for your buck for a sipping whisky. The northern Protestant states, angered by the violation of their rights to choose granted in the Peace of Augsburg, banded together to form the Protestant Union. Funny how these things work out, innit? I hear that William Grant & Sons has a contract with LDI to have Tullamore Dew produced in Cork until 2025, so they will have to either be creative to release anything from the new distillery or have some mighty fine aged whiskey come the latter half of the next decade. Check it out: http://whiskiesoftheworld.com. In my opinion, its one of the blandest, albeit smoothest, whiskeys Ive tasted. I tried Bushmills a couple of years ago and was surprised to find I liked it a lot, too. Look for a new addition to the landscape, The Irishman Original Clan & Single Malt. And it really is an Irish American thing to take to finding out which is protestant and catholic lol. In 1841, John Power, grandson of the founder was awarded a baronetcy, a hereditary title. Yup, only the americans give a shit about this stuff anymore. I often wonder why those Irish-Americans (usually in Irish bars of Boston or New York)who bring up this absurd and frankly bigoted discussion about Protestant & Catholic whiskey do not apply the same rule when it comes to drinking that most Irish of drinks Guinness. . The regular is fine; the Black Bush is nice if maybe too refined for me when I want a dram of Irish. Oh, and as your average American that enjoys the brown, I contend that my enjoyment of scotch does not come at the expense of the Irish, Kentuckians, Tennesseeans or even Canadians! Besides, Id have to prove I can fill a job where the company cant find a local. Not what I would call a cheap whisley, albeit there are many out there that can cost a fair penny more. Those whiskeys seem to get along just fine! Good evening All, In return, Bushmills receives grain whiskey from both Midleton & Cooley. As of late, its been my favorite it has rich barley notes that leave my palate craving more. I usually drink my whiskey neat but would anyone be able to recommend an Irish whiskey cocktail/mixed drink that doesnt included coffee or a green liquid? , Do note that the greatest tv show of all time, The Wire, always showed the Baltimore cops ordering Jameson in the bars, and the hero, McNulty, becomes indignant when only Bushmills is available at a partys open bar ( I guess most of the cops were Irish Catholic ), so traditions prevailed. Eamonn, I thought all that was in the past and your country moved on? Ian Paisley MP, Euro MP and MLA; universally known Doctor No. The good news is I dont have to worry about car bomb in Hicktown. Jesus, Mary and Joseph! This was a long term plan but theyve brought it forward by about 8-10 years. Enjoy your whiskey and spare a kind word for everyone. About 5 or 6 years ago they flooeded Irish bars with it just before St. Paddys Day,almost forcing bars to sell off a lot of free stock they received. . If you guys can get your hands on Kilbeggan, it will not disappointI only recently discovered it and thought Id share. He said Jameson trucks it up there when Jameson is at capacity, and Bushmills has the resources to do it. Polarised. Get your facts right ! Dont be so ignorant as to think about whether a whiskey is protestant or catholicidiot. Bourbon distillers only use barrels once, as the liquor gets its distinct flavor and color from the oak. For one, Jameson and Bushmills trade casks and some Jamesons bottles are bottled in the Bushmills distillery as well as knowing many a catholic who have worked there over the years. [8] In addition, three of the distillery's pot stills were saved and now located in the college's Red Square.[8]. Arthur Guinness was a Protestant and a Unionist. Sorry, but I have always loved them both. Well, Jeffrey Morgenthaler, youve clearly never been to a privately owned Irish Catholic pub. And let us not forget the new cask finishes of The Tyrconnell. 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